The Problem With “Traditional Lift Only” in Historic Stone Lifting
There is a phrase that keeps appearing in stone lifting circles: “honour the traditional lift”.
On the surface, it sounds noble
enough. Respect the stone. Respect the history. Respect the people who came
before us. I agree with all of that. Completely.
The problem begins when
“tradition” is turned into a fixed rule, or worse, a moral weapon. At that
point, the argument starts to crack. Not slowly either. Give the “traditional
lift only” stone a gentle tap and the fault lines appear almost immediately.
The central issue is simple. There
is no single Scottish “traditional lift”. The surviving record points to local
customs, local challenges, oral traditions, Victorian retellings, partial
sources, contested interpretations and modern reconstructions. Some stones were
lifted to the knee. Some were lifted to the lap. Some were raised to the
breast. Some were shouldered. Some were carried. Some were loaded onto plinths.
Some were lifted onto walls. Some were, apparently, thrown over dykes.
So when someone says “only lift it
in the traditional manner”, the obvious question is: which tradition, from
which source, from which period, and under what modern conditions?
This matters because “tradition”
can quickly become an appeal to tradition fallacy. That is the mistaken
assumption that something is good, correct or morally superior simply because
it is old or has been done before. Tradition may be relevant. It may be
beautiful. It may be worth preserving. But it is not, by itself, a complete
ethical argument.
The same issue appears in heritage
studies more broadly. Hobsbawm and Ranger’s idea of “invented tradition” is
useful here. Many practices that feel ancient are often partial
reconstructions, modern rituals or selective survivals (Hobsbawm and Ranger, 1983).
Stone lifting is not immune to this. In fact, it is a perfect example. We are
often trying to preserve, revive or imitate practices from fragments. That does
not weaken the tradition, but it does mean we need to be honest about how
fragmentary the evidence often is.
The question, then, should not be
“does this lift honour tradition?” The better question is: “does this lift
respect the stone, the site, the owner, the evidence and the future of the
tradition?”
That gives us a far better
starting point.
"Tradition lift only" starts to crack when
applied literally
The weakness in “traditional lift
only” becomes clear as soon as we try to apply it consistently.
1. Take the Inver Stone. The
historical picture is already messy. The Old Man of the Stones account
describes the Inver as a classic clach ultaich, a heavy stone lifted into the
lap (Old Man of the Stones, n.d.). It also says the claim that it was lifted onto
a dry-stone dyke is open to debate (Old Man of the Stones, n.d.). There is also
the famous story of the stone being carried across the road and placed on the
Inver Hotel bar counter. That particular version is described as myth in
relation to Bill Kazmaier’s lift, although the same account still notes the
idea of a free pint being offered to the first person to complete such a feat
(Old Man of the Stones, n.d.).
So what exactly is the traditional
lift of the Inver? Lap? Wall? Bar counter? Free pint? Chest? Shoulder? Press?
If a modern lifter turned up and
tried to carry the Inver across a road into a hotel bar, most reasonable people
would be horrified. The risk to the stone, the building, the public and the
future access to the site would be obvious. In that case, a controlled shoulder
or press, with a competent lifter, crash pads, spotters and permission, may be
far safer than a literal attempt to “honour tradition”.
2. The Dalwhinnie Stone makes the
point even more clearly. The earliest known record describes A. A. Cameron
carrying the stone into the hotel bar, placing it on the counter and demanding
a pint (LiftingStones.org, n.d.). If “tradition only” is our rule, then nobody
should be lifting it to chest, shoulder or overhead. They should all be
marching into the bar with it.
Of course that would be absurd. It
would put the stone, the premises and future access at risk. So what do we do?
We quietly abandon literal tradition and accept modern alternatives. Wind
beneath the stone. Lap. Chest. Shoulder. Press. Nobody sensible complains
because the alternative would be chaos.
Thank goodness for abandoning tradition when common sense demands it.
3. The Castle Menzies Stone is
another useful example. The safer sourced wording is that the stone was carried
upstairs to the dining room, where the new clan chief’s health was drunk (Old
Man of the Stones, n.d.). Later interpretation suggests this may have been a
test of strength for the buanachean, the bodyguards of the clan chief (Old Man
of the Stones, n.d.). It is a brilliant story, and it gives the stone real
cultural weight.
But do we really want to honour
that tradition literally?
Do we want lifters carrying a
heavy stone up the stairs of a historic castle? Do we want the risk of damaging
a listed heritage building, the stone, the floor, the stairs or anything inside
the castle? Obviously not. So again, tradition is not followed literally. It is
adapted. The stone is used in modern lifting contexts, including carries, and
that is probably the only reason the tradition can survive at all.
There is also a revealing double
standard here. The Castle Menzies Stone is walked with tacky in formal
settings, yet a random lifter using tacky on another historic stone could be
met with moral outrage. This is precisely why new lifters get confused. The
rules often appear less like stable ethics and more like unwritten social
codes, enforced unevenly depending on who is lifting, where they are lifting
and whether the community approves of them.
4. The Puterach and Pudrac stones
may be the greatest irony of all. The original challenge was to lift the
Puterach onto the Pudrac plinth, traditionally from the eastern side
(LiftingStones.org, n.d.). That is not vague. That is the tradition. Yet
LiftingStones.org (n.d.) now states that lifting to the ancient plinth is no
longer possible because of wear and tear damage. In other words, the very act
of honouring tradition helped make the traditional lift unsustainable.
That point alone should make us
cautious and think critically about traditional lifting.
If the traditional lift damages
the ancient site, then preserving the tradition requires changing the lift.
Otherwise, “honouring tradition” becomes the process by which the thing being
honoured is slowly destroyed.
5. The Barevan Stone, also known
as the Putting Stone of the Clans, raises the same issue in a slightly
different way. The clearer historical reference is that William MacIntosh
lifted the stone onto a neighbouring dyke wall (Old Man of the Stones, n.d.). The
name “putting stone” also invites broader questions about lifting, throwing and
the language of heavy stone feats. But either way, nobody sensible should be
encouraging modern lifters to throw or repeatedly load ancient stones around
Cawdor Kirkton just to satisfy a romantic idea of tradition.
6. The Achernack stones are even
more explicit. The Old Man of the Stones account says the stones were required
to be thrown over a dyke wall, not simply placed on top (Old Man of the Stones,
n.d.). If we applied “tradition only” here, we would be encouraging lifters to
throw heavy stones over a farmer’s wall. The result would be obvious: damaged
walls, damaged stones, angry landowners and, eventually, no lifting.
Again, tradition should give way
to preservation.
7. The Fianna Stone has its own
complications. The surviving accounts point towards lifting onto a plinth or
standing stone, although the precise details are debated (Old Man of the
Stones, n.d.). Anyone who has been around these plinth-style stones will know
the issue. Even controlled lowering can create impact, abrasion, sliding,
chipping and friction. In some cases, a modern lift to shoulder, with a
controlled return to grass or pads, may place less stress on the historic
feature than repeated “traditional” plinth contact.
8. The Saddlin’ Mare shows the
same pattern. The challenge is to lift the saddle stone and place it onto the
Mare, a high sloping plinth (LiftingStones.org, n.d.). LiftingStones.org (n.d.)
notes that the final position is around six feet high and that the stone may
slide down the face of the plinth. That is part of the challenge, but it is
also part of the risk. As the site becomes more popular, the stone, plinth and
ground at the base inevitably take more wear. What was once a rare local custom
becomes something very different when repeated by dozens or hundreds of modern
lifters.
The more popular the tradition
becomes, the more damaging the tradition may become.
9. Then there is the Húsafell
Stone in Iceland, perhaps the most famous carrying stone in the world. Its
traditional identity is bound up with the sheep pen. The final challenge is to
carry the stone around the pen without putting it down (LiftingStones.org,
n.d.). That is iconic. It is also inherently risky. When lifters gas out under
a 186kg stone and drop it from chest height onto a rough path, the historical
tradition itself becomes a threat to the historical stone.
10. The same logic applies to the
Dinnie Stones. Donald Dinnie’s famous feat was carrying the stones across the
width of Potarch Bridge, 17 feet 1.5 inches (LiftingStones.org, n.d.). If we
were truly literal about tradition, every lifter would need the stones moved to
the bridge and would have to empty the tank trying to carry them across the
road. Imagine the disruption. Imagine the damage to the road. Imagine the
abrasion to the stones. Imagine the local authority response.
The Dinnie Stones are preserved
precisely because the modern lifting format is not a literal recreation of the
original feat every time. The stones are lifted in a controlled context, under
rules, with permission, records and supervision. That is not a betrayal of
tradition. That is the reason that some sort of lifting can continue.
‘Tradition lift only’ as virtue
signalling
This is where the debate becomes
more uncomfortable.
When “tradition” is used
carefully, it can be a good thing. It can connect lifters to place, history and
culture. It can remind people that the stone is not just gym equipment. It can
create humility.
But when “tradition” is used
selectively, inconsistently and publicly to shame other lifters, it starts to
look like virtue signalling, or what Tosi and Warmke call moral grandstanding.
That is the use of moral language to present oneself as especially respectable,
principled or pure (Tosi and Warmke, 2016; Tosi and Warmke, 2020). Westra’s
discussion of virtue signalling is also useful here, especially where moral
language becomes a public display of virtue or purity rather than a route to
careful ethical reasoning (Westra, 2021).
In stone lifting terms, this might
look like:
“I only honour the true lift.”
“I would never disrespect the old ways.”
“Modern lifters are ruining the tradition.”
“Records and firsts are just ego.”
“Shouldering or pressing is not real stone lifting.”
These claims are often
questionable on their own terms. The larger problem is that they allow the
speaker to claim moral high ground without doing the harder work of consistent
reasoning.
If tradition matters above all
else, why not carry the Dalwhinnie into the bar?
If tradition matters above all
else, why not throw the Achernack stones over the dyke?
If tradition matters above all
else, why not carry the Castle Menzies Stone upstairs?
If tradition matters above all
else, why was the Puterach plinth damaged through the very act of honouring the
traditional challenge?
At some point, the tradition-only
position collapses into cherry-picking. Tradition is followed when it suits the
argument and abandoned when it becomes inconvenient, impractical, dangerous or
legally absurd.
That is not a coherent ethical
framework. It is selective moral posturing.
The rejection of ‘firsts’,
records and personal achievements in stonelifting
A related issue is the discomfort
some people have with firsts, quantities, records and personal achievements on
historic stones.
I find this sad, and logically
flawed.
Of course, there is a bad version
of record chasing. We have all seen it. Ego before etiquette. Risk before
respect. A lifter chasing a clip, a number or a “world first” with no regard
for landowners, stone condition, site damage or their own limits. That should
be challenged.
But the answer is not to pretend
that firsts and records do not matter.
Stone lifting history is built on
remembered feats. Donald Dinnie is remembered because the story is specific:
two stones, bare hands, <200lb man, Potarch Bridge, 17 feet 1.5 inches
(LiftingStones.org, n.d.). The Húsafell Stone has meaning because the challenge
is specific: lift it and carry it around the sheep pen as the female daughter
of the farmer did first (LiftingStones.org, n.d.). The Dritvík stones have
meaning because different stones give different ranks (LiftingStones.org,
n.d.). Even the language of Fullsterkur, half-strong and weakling is a form of
classification and achievement.
In other words, the tradition
itself is full of standards.
Modern sport has always been
shaped by measurement, comparison and record. Allen Guttmann’s classic account
of modern sport identifies quantification and the quest for records as defining
features of modern sporting culture (Guttmann, 1978). Whether one agrees with
every part of Guttmann’s model or not, it clearly helps explain why lifters
care about first shoulders, first presses, first women, first drug-free lifts,
longest carries, most repetitions, heaviest stones and personal milestones.
There is nothing automatically
egotistical about that. It is one of the ways people make effort, risk and
achievement visible.
A first lift can and does inspire
people. I was personally inspired by Andy Cairney being the first to shoulder
the Ardvorlich, I wanted to be amongst the first five to shoulder it. This did not make me respect the stone less,
in fact it did the opposite; it made that stone so important to me that I would
defend it with zeal and would never lift it without the correct kit, drop pads
and all! Furthermore, it connected me more spiritually to the stone and that
stone became my ‘silent realm stone’ – making me appreciate the spiritual side
of stonelifting in a way I never have before.
A recorded lift can preserve
history. A personal best can give a lifter a reason to train for years and
deepen their passion for the history and ‘tradition’ of stone lifting. A
quantity, such as “most lifts”, can show endurance, consistency and commitment.
A first shoulder, first press or first female completion can expand what others
believe is possible. I can’t even begin to imagine how many female lifters have
been inspired to try out stone lifting by the incredible female world firsts of
Sandra Bradley.
It is strange to celebrate Donald
Dinnie, Guðný Snorradóttir, A. A. Cameron or the great historic named strongmen
of North Uist, Ireland and beyond, then sneer when modern lifters document
their own achievements. The past is not more meaningful simply because it is
old. A feat done now can still be brave, careful, culturally valuable and
inspiring.
There is also an inclusion point
here. Not every achievement needs to be an all-time record to matter. A first
lift after injury matters. A first woman to lift a stone matters. A first local
lifter matters. A first shoulder for a lighter lifter matters. A first lift by
someone who was told they could not do it matters. I personally want everyone
to post about Gary Clarke when he becomes the first adaptive athlete in a chair
to shoulder some of the historic stones. A careful personal best, achieved
within the lifter’s limits and with every precaution taken, is worth
celebrating. That does not weaken the tradition. In many cases, it is what
keeps the ‘holistic tradition’ alive.
A final thought on the “but how do
you know?” argument. The honest answer is that we do not know with absolute
certainty, and that applies to almost any claim of a record. How do we know
someone has not deadlifted 550kg in a rough garage gym somewhere, with no
social media, no witnesses and no video? We do not. But that is not how records
work. We work from the best available evidence, the most credible witnesses and
the most probable account. In that sense, we recognise the deadlift record
because it has been publicly performed, evidenced and scrutinised. The same
logic applies to historic stones. Could someone have shouldered the Ardvorlich
before Andy Cairney? Could another woman have lifted the largest of the Dritvik
stones before Sandara Bradley? Of course, it is possible. But based on the
available evidence, community knowledge and documented lifting history, it is
highly improbable. So, the fairest position is not to demand impossible
certainty. It is to recognise the most credible claim while remaining honest
about the limits of what can ever be proven.
A better principle:
custodianship over reenactment
The reasonable conclusion here is
not “anything goes”. That would simply replace one lazy argument with another.
The better principle is
custodianship.
A good lifter should ask:
Do I have permission?
Am I strong enough for the lift I am attempting?
Have I protected the stone?
Have I protected the site?
Have I protected the landowner’s trust?
Have I considered pads, spotters and safe lowering?
Am I avoiding unnecessary abrasion, impact or dragging?
Am I leaving the place better than I found it?
Am I being honest about what I did?
Am I distinguishing clearly between history, folklore, personal interpretation
and modern challenge?
That is a far better ethic than
using “traditional lift only” as a blanket answer.
Sometimes the traditional lift
should be attempted. Sometimes it should be adapted. Sometimes it should be
retired. Sometimes the safest and most respectful option is a modern
alternative that preserves the stone for future lifters.
That is not disrespectful. It is a
more mature form of custodianship.
Conclusion
The phrase “honour tradition”
sounds powerful, but in stone lifting it is often built on shaky foundations.
The evidence is fragmentary. The practices vary by region and stone. The
traditions themselves are often contested, reconstructed or impractical in
modern contexts.
If we applied tradition literally,
we would be carrying stones into bars, dragging them across roads, lifting them
upstairs in historic castles, loading them onto fragile plinths and throwing
them over farmers’ dykes.
Very few people, if they thought
it through properly, would want that.
So, the ‘tradition-only’ argument
cannot be the final word. It is too inconsistent, too selective and too
detached from the practical responsibility of preserving the stones themselves.
The better standard is simple:
lift the stones in the safest, most respectful and most honest manner possible.
Stay within your limits. Use drop pads where appropriate. Seek permission.
Protect the stone. Protect the site. Protect access for the next person.
Celebrate responsible success.
Celebrate personal achievements. Celebrate firsts when they are as genuine as
they can be. Celebrate people pushing the boundaries of what is possible while
taking every reasonable precaution.
We do not need cherry-picked 'traditional-lift-only' moralising.
We need evidence, logic, humility
and strict etiquette.
That is how the stones have a
chance of surviving and community to thrive.
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